Oct 01, 2006, 06:39 PM // 18:39
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#21
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
For gods sake, your all slagging it off [most of ypu], and it worked for me. You don't have to make yourself beleive that it sucks, just go on some other thread. It worked for me, I won, woohoo.
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So you'll just spout crap and if we don't like it we can go somewhere else? No. I wouldn't mind at all if you just had a PR appreciation society in a corner somewhere, but these are public forums.
What really gets me is this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
It worked for me, I won, woohoo.
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You actually say that like it means something. In fact you said it with such conviction I just had to go out and find out what works for me. No doubt this will be the new metagame:
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Oct 01, 2006, 06:49 PM // 18:49
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#22
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Xxx The Final Thrust Xxx
Profession: W/
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^^ROFL^^ PROOF ENOUGH
To OP:
If you dont want feedback then dont post on the forums man. Basically everyone who has posted said its crap. You cant gain adren, which sux. U cant sprint/rush which sux. Who cares about crit hits, because like everyone else says, they will kite you, so it sux. Its a waste of an elite, if you want to do some damage with a hammer, just use rush and stay in it, build adren and spike with a somewhat normal chain. A chain that uses knockdowns and, you know, USEFULL WARRIOR SKILLS.
I'm not going to say anymore, because you tested this in RA which is the worst PvP environment you could possible play in. If you really wanna test it, get 8 COMPETANT PvPers and scrim each other and see how it works, cause ur gonna be running around with your hammer not hitting anything, because you cant reach them, and then a REAL hammer warrior is gonna come over and dev hammer you then crushing blow and you will be running around with "I Will Survive!" on but still cant do any damage cause u have weakness, convered with a deep wound and you STILL cant reach any target. If I played against you as a war I would just wand spike you until i was filled up then KD you and frenzy my spike, then you would stand up and I would kite more.
GG buddy dont post if you dont wanna know the truth about your build, and the truth is, it sux.
Last edited by comonnow; Oct 01, 2006 at 06:52 PM // 18:52..
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Oct 01, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44
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#23
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]
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-.- I only RA or TA, i hate GVG. And you went all the way to spite me? I dont care, really. Im just saying i saw plenty of hits over 100, and theyre proof enough for me, thanks.
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Oct 01, 2006, 07:51 PM // 19:51
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#24
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: Mo/N
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Primal rage is kinda ok if i use it with way of perfection for my WA.
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Oct 01, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14
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#25
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
Sigh. You are the people that gives it a bad name. I tried this build. It isnt horrible. Don't just say its a bad build. I played with it for an hour, we won 75% of our battles with it. You can very easily say the people we played against where crap. Some where. We killed them very easily. Others, we killed easily, however, some we lost against, it was either the skill of my team / opponents. This build does not suck. In RA it is damn good.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but
1) Your build didn't make you win 75% of your battles.
2) Theres no such thing as good in RA
Primal Rage is crap compared to almost every other warrior elite. No IAS, and you cant use any other skills.
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Oct 01, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21
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#26
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]
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Actually, you can use them before hand. And okay, it might not be the reason i won, sorry for offending you so very very much? EDIT: How about you could give me a good hammer build so i can do some good damage then xD I'm basically a complete fr00b at pvp, cept from now.
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Oct 01, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31
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#27
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
Actually, you can use them before hand. And okay, it might not be the reason i won, sorry for offending you so very very much? EDIT: How about you could give me a good hammer build so i can do some good damage then xD I'm basically a complete fr00b at pvp, cept from now.
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It is a good idea to use skills before, but once you use primal rage healing signet is down for 10 seconds, which can be hurtful.
PvP Hammer Build
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Oct 02, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51
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#28
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]
Profession: Me/N
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Generic Dev Hammer build:
Devastaing Hammer [Elite]
Crushing Blow
Fierce Blow
Frenzy
Rush
Healing Signet
Plague Touch
Res Sig
But just go on the Warrior forums and ask around.
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Oct 02, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SPAWN CAMPING YOUR HOUSE
Guild: We Speed Clear H O H [ HsC]
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IWAY+primal rage is a good combo.
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Oct 02, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40
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#30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by some guy
IWAY+primal rage is a good combo.
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Care to explain?
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Oct 02, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12
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#31
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Urmston, Manchester, UK
Guild: Greener Pastures [DVDF]
Profession: W/Rt
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25% faster, health regen, high chance of critical, 20% armour pen, all at once. Shame about no attack skills.
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Oct 02, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13
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#32
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I'm the king
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore
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Use IWAY then use Primal Rage. You attack faster. Lol.
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Oct 02, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37
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#33
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Krytan Explorer
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This skill is awful... awful! self blackout every 5 seconds is terrible.
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Oct 05, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24
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#34
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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i find this skill pretty funny i was messing with a guildie
i used:
Primal Rage
Signet of Strength
Strength of Honor
Judge's Insight
this build would only work if you messing about but i still hit 105 normal attacks with a hammer
in a proper build i just couldnt make this work
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Oct 05, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41
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#35
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: UK
Guild: Duality Of The Dragon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
You see, this is what I was looking for. Not just ITS CRAP or ITS SUCKS N00B but a good point, a bad point. I do not know how much damage thumpers do, never playing one, but we played against one at one point, she was killed easily. [Again, this is down to her skill and that of my team]
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Heres the problem with this discussion its you. Your build worked in RA. Thats not exactly what you can call a valid form of testing. And stop trying to disrepute every opinion that dpesn't agree with your own. Overly bias thread creators never make a discussion go far.
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Oct 05, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23
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#36
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: N/E
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I heard that Primal Rage in it's testing stages used to NOT disable skills, and when used with Executioner's Strike, Galrath Slash or other high damage melee attacks, they could easily get up to around 250-300 damage in a hit!
But needless to say, they toned it down... alot.
The only thing I can think that it would make it any good, is if another warrior beside this one used "Charge".
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Oct 05, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18
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#37
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaKai
Heres the problem with this discussion its you. Your build worked in RA. Thats not exactly what you can call a valid form of testing. And stop trying to disrepute every opinion that dpesn't agree with your own. Overly bias thread creators never make a discussion go far.
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And people who think i care about other forms of pvp go where..? The only pvp I really do was AB and RA, ive done TA once, didnt really like it. And i've realised the skill kinda sucks, but if you have a build centered around it (A few posts up) Its OK. But too much hastle, really. If ANet made it have a speed/attack speed boost, it would be great.
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Oct 05, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09
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#38
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: in my guild hall afk
Guild: Ar Vin Pvp[AMp]
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
The only pvp I really do was AB and RA, ive done TA once, didnt really like it.
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That explains everything <.<
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Oct 05, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54
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#39
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
And people who think i care about other forms of pvp go where..?
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No, RA is a perfectly legitmate form of pvp (assuming you pvp for fun and don't get frustrated easily). It's just that there's no point in posting builds based upon success in RA as evidence that a skill is good, because like empty skillbar warrior showed us, anything can work in RA.
Out of curiosity, anyone try sticking primal rage on a team with some sort of charge warrior? The DPS on primal rage really is pretty good, not sure if it's better than a vanilla warrior or a thumper though. If anything, it might be ok for turning midline mesmers into energy sponges for the monks.
Last edited by Morganas; Oct 06, 2006 at 12:00 AM // 00:00..
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Oct 07, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09
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#40
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
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Primal Rage is a decent elite, but the downside of it makes it rather unliked by the general public...
It's purpose is to maintain a steady DPS, NOT to spike... if you try to use it for that, quit the game and get some common sense before you come back.
For example (just thinking this up right now), go W/A
Siphon Speed, Primal Rage.
The guy can't kite properly whilst you pound him with several high-damage auto-attacks
so spread the word, stop using cookie cutter builds and try those never-used/hated skills in a different way!
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